2012 Libertarian Presidential Candidates: Where Are They Now?

While it is widely known that 2012 Libertarian Party presidential nominee Gary Johnson is again seeking his party’s presidential nomination, the activities of the unsuccessful 2012 Libertarian Party presidential candidates are not so obvious.  I decided to research the matter and provide an update on the former candidates.  I found that out of the nine principal 2012 challengers to Johnson, one is deceased, two have expressed support for Republican front-runner Donald Trump, and three more are again running for President.

Jim “Libertarian” Burns – The second runner-up for the presidential nomination in 2012 with 12 convention votes (2.02%), Burns died from an unspecified illness in December 2013 while mounting a 2016 campaign for President, his fourth.  Nevertheless, “friends” continue to write on his Facebook wall as if he is still alive.

Burns attends the November 16, 2013  Nevada Libertarian Party Convention in what may be his last existing image.
Image: David Colbourne

Roger V. Gary ran for Texas House of Representatives District 123 as the Libertarian Party nominee in 2015 and received 103 votes (1.4%).  According to his Facebook profile, Gary remains active in Libertarian circles in San Antonio, Texas.  He also seems to enjoy playing the Facebook game “Island Experiment.”

Last December, Gary (second from the left) participated with Libertarian Light at the San Antonio Food Bank.
Image: Libertarian Light

James Ogle – Winner of the 2012 Missouri Presidential Primary, Ogle continues his work with the US Parliament project and appears to have expanded into a worldwide International Parliament.  He briefly joined the Democratic Party and filed with the FEC to run in the nonexistent 2014 presidential election.  He later joined the Republican Party and filed to run for president in 2016 “to promote an ultra-conservative voting system where votes aren’t liberally thrown away and wasted.”  He has not appeared on any primary ballots.

Carl Person – The third runner-up for the 2012 nomination with three convention votes, Person ran for Mayor of New York City in 2013 as the nominee of the Reform Party.  He received 306 votes (0.03%).  In 2014, he was the Libertarian Party nominee for New York Attorney General and received 24,746 votes (0.7%).  The website for his law firm remains active and last year IPR posted an article about his lawsuit against New York City for the installation of bike lanes without the issuance of an environmental impact statement.

Person (far right) in 2014 alongside New York Libertarian Party candidates.
Image: Libertarian Party of Suffolk County, New York

R. Lee Wrights – The runner-up to Johnson at the 2012 convention with 152 votes (25.55%), he launched a short-lived campaign for Governor of Texas in 2014 but withdrew due to a lack of support.  Since then he’s been very active on Facebook, posting multiple memes and updates per day.

RJ Harris – dropped out of the presidential race in 2012 to run as an Independent for Oklahoma’s 4th Congressional district in the U.S. House of Representatives.  In the general election, he received 4.5% of the vote.  In 2014, Harris ran for Governor of Oklahoma as a “Liberty Democrat.” Though he initially did not have a Democratic primary challenger, once Oklahoma Representative Joe Dorman announced, Harris dropped out of the race and endorsed Dorman who became the Democratic nominee.  For 2016, he initially supported Senator Rand Paul’s presidential campaign but after Paul withdrew, he backed Donald Trump.  He has now publicly endorsed Trump for President and voted for Trump in the Oklahoma Primary.  In a Facebook post from last week, he excoriated the Libertarian Party as elitists:

I hate the Libertarian Party. I regret ever having had anything to do with it. I can’t stand intellectual elitists Libertarians and Anarchists and if you are a Republican or Democrat not happy this cycle TRUST ME you won’t find ANYTHING welcoming in the Libertarian Party or with its activists. They are mostly a very closed off clique who are excepting of only the most intellectually pure adherents to their creed. (so just like the other two parties) The only thing that works for me is simply supporting candidates and IGNORING party labels. Oh and believe it or not I am still a Libertarian philosophically and I refuse to allow the jack asses in the party to define what that means for me. If you don’t like that me and other prominent libertarians are backing Trump then get off my wall and go back to your anarchists friends.

Harris and his wife at a military ball in February 2016.
Image: RJ Harris

Bill Still – hosts the Still Report on YouTube for which he has posted, at last count, 752 videos.  The show appears to demonstrate a pro-Trump slant.  His recent video on the National Enquirer report on Senator Ted Cruz’s sex scandal, received over 110,000 views, but Still had to release a correction the next day after presenting a fake webpage as an actual report.  In that video embedded below, Still predicts Donald Trump will receive 55% in the general election and that Gary Johnson will receive less than one percent.

Sam Sloan – received two write-in votes at the 2012 convention.  Like Person, Sloan ran for Mayor of New York City in 2013 as an Independent and received 166 votes (0.02%). In 2014 he ran for the Democratic Party’s nomination to represent New York’s 15th Congressional District but lost in the primary to Congressman José E. Serrano.  After losing, he attempted to run for governor as a Democrat and Libertarian, but his petitions were denied.  Sloan entered his name into the New Hampshire Primary to run for the Democratic Party’s 2016 presidential nomination.  Ahead of the primary, he participated in the Lesser-Known Candidates Forum at St. Anselm College.  He received 15 votes in the New Hampshire Primary.

Sloan at the Lesser-Known Candidates Forum on January 19, 2016.
Image: Marc Nozell.

Joy Waymire – After a short-lived campaign for Governor of California, Waymire decided to run for President once again as a Libertarian.   See her campaign website.  She appeared on the North Carolina Primary ballot and received 266 votes (5%) for fourth place behind Gary Johnson, No Preference, and John Hale.  Although she is recognized as a candidate on the official Libertarian Party website, she has yet to participate in any Libertarian Party presidential forum or debate.

Waymire in a November 2014 image from Facebook.

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28 thoughts on “2012 Libertarian Presidential Candidates: Where Are They Now?

  1. Interesting.
    I “met” Burns at the 2008 PA/NJ LP state convention with Presidential debate.
    Also present Christine Smith, WAR, Jingozian, Phillies, etc. 10 altogether.
    Not present, Kubby, Barr, Ruwart, Gravel.

  2. Come on, WSS. You should dispel any notions that you have been kidnapped and are now just a supercomputer program. By attending the convention. Bayside isn’t that far from Orlando.

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  4. That doesn’t sound like the WSS I knew from the BTP days.
    You are the one that caught Pierre Croisant switching off on computers. That raised my suspicions.
    Turns out the whole Croisant/Tiffany Briscoe/Ogle thing was probably a covert operation.
    She wound up with him along with Roseanne Barr. She gave a pro Netanyahu rant.
    Major disconnect there.
    Warren Solomon can point to Ogle as justified banning, then compare me to him.
    The whole political system is corrupt.

  5. Well, plans can change, mister, if you are a man.
    You have been outed. Online. Which means publicly EVERYWHERE.
    People are going to ask about your appearance or lack thereof.
    Deal with it.

  6. Has anyone besides Milnes asked about Saturn’s appearance or lack thereof? Or by people does Milnes mean Milnes? It seems kinda rude to demand that a volunteer reporter travel to events all over the country, especially when the alleged candidate has yet to demonstrate any ability to attend such far flung events himself.

  7. I went to an lp state convention in 2008 inPA. A minor party candidate debate in 2011 in …PA! Both E. PA, near Philly.
    HOWEVER, I traveled across the middle of USA to Boulder and CA several times, usually in my van. That would explain why somebody would angle crash hit and run my van in 2012 just before the lp convention in Las Vegas.
    Is WSS a reporter? Part time? Free lance? Special interest in LP politics?
    What else does WSS do, by himself in Bayside, TX? Or does he have a roommate? And/or a girlfriend/boyfriend?
    He says he has a brother. Or rather his brother using his email says he has a brother.
    Sorry but there is too much that doesn’t make sense here. Too many questions.
    Why is it I ask about WSS and his “brother” and others privy to the oddball emails from his brother do not e.g. Jill Pyeatt and Warren Solomon?
    Is Jill Pyeatt jewish? Is she not jewish but supports Israel? Is she a dhs/fbi and/or mossad agent or operative?
    Why hasn’t the LPRC or the LP or GP endorsed the BDS movement?
    Why is CAH Caryn Ann Harlos, a LPRC member, supporting Johnson…instead of radical Darryl Perry?
    Why has paulie, LPRC/BTP said always supportive things about Johnson?
    Why am I not on the North Carolina Ballot as an LP candidate for presidential nomination? Only one issue-seeking ONLY the LP nomination? I’m not, i.e.seeking BOTH the LP and GP nomination. Why is seeking a nomination other than LP not ok? But it is ok for Johnson to seekrepublican nomination THEN LP nomination in 2012. Why is Darryl Perry allowed to not file with FEC on principle but still be a recognized candidate?
    Cyberhorse/Marty Markowitz/paulie/etc.?

  8. I already asked WSS if he is jewish. He said no. WSS, are you not jewish but support Israel? Are you a dhs/fbi and/or mossad agent or operative?
    George Phillies, Caryn Ann Harlos, Jill Pyeatt, Susan Hogarth, same questions.

  9. “HOWEVER, I traveled across the middle of USA to Boulder and CA several times, usually in my van. ”

    And when was the last time?

  10. “Is WSS a reporter? Part time? Free lance? Special interest in LP politics?”

    He’s a blogger/wiki editor/commentator/volunteer reporter. If he has a paid journalism gig anywhere, as far as I know this isn’t it.

    “What else does WSS do, by himself in Bayside, TX? Or does he have a roommate? And/or a girlfriend/boyfriend?”

    Dunno. Don’t really care. It’s his business. He has a right to blog about and discuss people, parties and issues regardless and it does not as a result suddenly obligate him to travel thousands of miles to events.

    “Is Jill Pyeatt jewish? Is she not jewish but supports Israel? ”

    She is a Christian and sides with the Palestinians.

    “Why hasn’t the LPRC or the LP or GP endorsed the BDS movement?”

    The GP may have. The LP does not share your particular obsession with Israel.

    “Why is CAH Caryn Ann Harlos, a LPRC member, supporting Johnson…instead of radical Darryl Perry?”

    She is on record as supporting Perry.

    “Why has paulie, LPRC/BTP said always supportive things about Johnson?”

    He’s not even a real libertarian. Hopefully he will be caught and punished soon if he hasn’t been already.

    “Why am I not on the North Carolina Ballot as an LP candidate for presidential nomination? ”

    Presumably because you failed to qualify.

    “Why is seeking a nomination other than LP not ok? But it is ok for Johnson to seekrepublican nomination THEN LP nomination in 2012.”

    Johnson dropped his Republican bid when he switched to the LP. You are still claiming to seek both the LP and GP nominations. Thus, there’s no inconsistency in how the rule has been applied to you two.

    “Why is Darryl Perry allowed to not file with FEC on principle but still be a recognized candidate?”

    Because Nick Sarwark likes him. Other people on the LNC don’t agree but Nick is the chair and tells staff what to do. If people consider it a big enough problem they will vote in a different chair in Orlando as there are at least two other candidates for national chair.

  11. “She is a Christian and sides with the Palestinians.” (Jill Pyeatt)
    So she supports the Green One State Solution? As I do.
    That still leaves what to do about the jews, the disparately rich and powerful mongrel menagerie with no homeland.
    There are extreme Zionists that believe there is no such thing as a Palestinian.

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