Flashback Friday: Video of 2008 Pennsylvania Libertarian Party Presidential Debate


As was brought to my attention by frequent Saturnalian reader and presidential candidate Robert Milnes, the Pennsylvania Libertarian Party held a presidential debate on March 15, 2008 in which Milnes participated.  Previously it was thought video of Milnes at the 2012 Alternative Candidates Debate was the only footage of him available.  However, apparently the Pennsylvania debate was live-streamed on the video streaming service Ustream, where it has been preserved.

Milnes participated in the debate with eight other Libertarian presidential candidates: Jim Burns, Daniel Imperato, Bob Jackson, Michael Jingozian, Alden Link, George Phillies, Wayne Allyn Root, and Christine Smith. Ken Krawchuk of the Pennsylvania Libertarian Party moderated the debate, curiously, just as he did the 2012 Alternative Candidates Debate featuring Milnes.

The footage of the debate is blurry and sometimes the sound is difficult to hear, especially when Milnes speaks since he has a very soft voice. Notably during the opening statements, Milnes discusses his admiration for President Theodore Roosevelt.  When Root speaks, he thanks Milnes for mentioning Roosevelt, but comments that Roosevelt was full of energy, insinuating that Milnes was not.

The debate is embedded below:

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9 thoughts on “Flashback Friday: Video of 2008 Pennsylvania Libertarian Party Presidential Debate

  1. I don’t care much about Israel either way. It’s about as significant as, say, Malawi, Myanmar or Suriname to me. Why should Saturn be any different in that regard?

  2. What barn in the burbs are you living in?
    This is USA 21st century.
    Israel is the worst terrorist state in the world.
    There are 6 million jews in USA feasting on it and paying it forward to Israel.
    Israel then betrays America.
    What is there not to care about?

    • Most of the leading U.S. progressives are Jewish. Does PLAS not include Jews? And how do you determine who is Jewish? Circumscision? Mother’s lineage? One drop rule?

      • Your questions merely showcase the huge, complex problem the jews are and Israel is.
        Simply, the jews must be stopped. Israel must be neutralized.
        I’ve formulated a proposal. U.N. resolutions must be repealed. Each member nation must take in its percentage of jews. Then they must be monitored. They cannot be trusted.
        yes, PLAS includes jews but the jews are not going to support PLAS, quite the contrary. Because it is in direct conflict with Israel.
        Fortunately there are relatively few jews in the world. So, once their diabolical doings are understood, they can be controlled. Without having to resort to killing them all. -Genocide.
        As it is in USA, they are like piranha feeding frenzy on American largess.
        That largess actually largely belongs to native American Indians. The jews are stealing from helpless Indians. It is disgusting and infuriating for me to see this.

    • If people want to give their money to Israel that’s their business. I don’t think the US government should give any money to Israel and that is the extent of my opinion on the matter.

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